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Friday, December 14, 2012

Accept Jesus as your personal savior or else...

Accept Jesus as your personal savior or you will burn in hell for all eternity.

This sounds way too much like the criminal organization of heaven. Where the real threat is from God who is making us an offer we can't refuse of turn or burn whereby we must join the organization and offer it our loyalty in order to escape the mayhem that would never come our way if it were not for the very one also making us the offer of grace.

If God's love is insufficient on its own to bring us into fellowship then it is insufficient for everything. Creating all this fearful drama is ridiculous.

To think that any one's eternal destiny is fully dependent upon their acceptance of unverifiable terms is not just absurd, it is insane and abusive beyond measure.

That is not good news. That god should not be worshiped, he should be indicted for racketeering.


  1. Most of the evangelical Christians I know would agree with you - that God is not like this. They would say hell is more of a natural consequence of rejecting God, not His desire or His direct action.

    His desire is that He wants us to be with Him, and He paid a great price to make that happen. But His love for us demands that He still gives us a choice. We can choose to accept or reject him. And each choice has natural consequences. Really, not any different than the natural consequences of not taking care of your physical body. Our choices have consequences.

    Any thoughts on addressing that type of thinking?

    It's much less mob-like. But it's still requiring us to have 'figured it out' before we die.

    1. Jesus said, few there be that ever find it. He recognizes that without trying to hide it, the spiritual realities are not easy to see.

      In many ways I see this as a thing that gets lost in translation, but the judgment that is to come is not a judgement, it is a diagnosis. That which could not be plainly seen will be plainly clarified.

      It would not go well with many Christians but I think that it was the human paradigm that assumed too much about where the line was drawn. They assumed those who do not see it in this life are too late. I think they intended well but that they were wrong in that assumption.

      I cannot accept as philosophically sensible the notion that one's eternity depends upon acknowledging something for which there is no possibility of verifying.

    2. Why exactly is it philosophically sensible for you to assert what God might or might not judge (or in your unsupported re-definition, diagnose) people for doing or not doing?